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Discusión: Duda - Cambio de aceite del DSG en Golf GTI V

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    Duda - Cambio de aceite del DSG en Golf GTI V

    Buenas tardes.

    Dentro de poco tengo que cambiar el aceite del DSG de 120.000km. El resto de la revisión ya se la he hecho en taller de confianza pero voy a llevarlo al concesionario para que me cambien el aceite del DSG y el filtro del aceite, ya que es algo que no en todos los talleres saben hacer. ¿Alguien me podría sacar con el ordenador qué es lo que se hace exactamente y el tiempo que está estipulado para hacerlo?¿Por cuánto os ha salido el cambio del DSG en otras ocasiones?

    Gracias!

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    Peatón
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    Buenas,
    Adjunto descripción de la operación que sale en el ElsaWin. Está en inglés.
    Básicamente se saca el tapón de drenaje que consta de dos partes para que salga el aceite y luego se pone solo la parte del tapón que lleva rebosador. Se inyecta el aceite con un tubo y dejando el coche plano y con el motor en marcha, se deja que el sobrante caiga por el rebosador. Al acabar se pone el tapón y listos. El filtro va en la parte de arriba de la caja de cambio y se saca sin complicaciones.
    No lo he hecho nunca porque mi gti tiene cambio manual, pero supongo que si no es la primera vez y la hora del bocadillo ya ha pasado, en 30' te lo pueden tener listo. He visto algún video en Youtube del proceso en cambios DSG. Puedes mirar para hacerte la idea y animarte, que con gato, dos borriquetas, VAG-COM y un poco de imaginación para llenar el aceite por debajo, puedes hacerlo tu mejor que en el concesionario de turno.

    Saludos

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    Changing oil and filter and adjusting oil level
    This shows you how the oil and filter are changed at the same time.

    If the “old” filter is to remain in the gearbox, please refer to the notes about oil → Chapter.
    Brief description
    First read the oil temperature. If it is above 50°C, let the gearbox cool off. Then, with the engine switched off, the overflow pipe is screwed out and the oil drained in this way. The overflow pipe is then fitted again and the gearbox is “overfilled”, the engine started and excess oil drained until the oil level attains the level of the overflow pipe.
    Special tools and workshop equipment required

    t -VAS 5051-
    t Adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262-
    t Used oil collection and extraction unit -V.A.G 1782- or
    t Drip tray -V.A.G 1306-
    t Torque wrench -V.A.G 1331-
    The oil is available as a Genuine part. Therefore the Genuine part number for it can be found in the → Electronic parts catalogue “ETKA”.
    Prerequisites
    l Engine off.
    l Vehicle level, all supports in lifting platform at same height.
    l If noise insulation tray is present, it must be removed.
    l Selector lever in “P”.
    l -VAS 5051- is connected.
    l At start of work, oil temperature must not be above 50 °C.

    To gearbox manufacture date “20 September 2004”, gearboxes were constructed with two plugs.
    It is important not to interchange these bolts. To change oil, unscrew only -A- near → pendulum support.
    Gearboxes built after 20th September 2004, i.e. which are “later”, are fitted with bolt -A- only.

    – Always renew seal -arrow-.

    – Follow every one of the following instructions in the order given throughout the oil change.
    – Connect VAS tester and identify the vehicle in Guided fault finding.
    – Dual clutch gearbox
    – Check fluid level

    – Engine off - Do not start engine!
    Do not start engine until instructed to do so. But not yet.
    – Place drip tray -V.A.G 1306- under gearbox.
    – Connect VW tester and press Guided functionsCheck oil level.

    – “Slowly” unscrew filter housing.
    – Before removing filter housing from gearbox, tip it slightly in its seat.
    This way, the oil will flow from the filter housing back into the gearbox.

    – After inserting new filter element with -shoulder- downwards, tighten housing to 20 Nm.
    – Raise vehicle.
    – Remove noise insulation tray.
    – Place used oil collection and extraction unit -V.A.G 1782- or drip tray -V.A.G 1306- under gearbox.

    – Remove inspection plug near pendulum support -arrow-.
    A black plastic “overflow tube” (with 8 mm hexagon socket head bolt, tightening torque 3 Nm) is located in this hole. Its length determines the oil level in the gearbox.
    – Remove this oil pipe.
    Approximately 5 litres of oil will run out.
    – Screw overflow tube back in, 3 Nm.

    – Screw adapter -A- from -VAS 6262- hand-tight into inspection hole.

    Shake oil cans before opening them.
    – Add 5.5 l of → DSG® oil.
    To change bottles, close tap or hold adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- above gearbox.
    – Continue to switch -VAS 5051- until → DSG® oil temperature is displayed.

    – Now start engine.
    – Depress brake pedal and select each selector lever position for about 3 seconds. Move selector lever to position “P” position.
    Do not switch off engine!
    When the oil temperature has reached 35 °C to 45 °C:
    – Disconnect quick-release coupling of adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- with engine running.
    – Let excess oil run out.

    – When excess oil has run out (when it begins only to drip), remove adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- and install plug with new seal.
    Torque setting: 45 Nm
    – Switch off engine.
    Oil which has run out cannot be filled again.
    Dispose of oil according to law → Chapter.
    This concludes the oil and filter change.
    The oil level in the gearbox is correctly set.
    – Install noise insulation tray.

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    Peatón
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    Ah, no he adjuntado las fotos que vienen en el manual de taller. Si las quieres te las mando.

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    Quote Originalmente publicado por gabi_gas Ver post
    Buenas,
    Adjunto descripción de la operación que sale en el ElsaWin. Está en inglés.
    Básicamente se saca el tapón de drenaje que consta de dos partes para que salga el aceite y luego se pone solo la parte del tapón que lleva rebosador. Se inyecta el aceite con un tubo y dejando el coche plano y con el motor en marcha, se deja que el sobrante caiga por el rebosador. Al acabar se pone el tapón y listos. El filtro va en la parte de arriba de la caja de cambio y se saca sin complicaciones.
    No lo he hecho nunca porque mi gti tiene cambio manual, pero supongo que si no es la primera vez y la hora del bocadillo ya ha pasado, en 30' te lo pueden tener listo. He visto algún video en Youtube del proceso en cambios DSG. Puedes mirar para hacerte la idea y animarte, que con gato, dos borriquetas, VAG-COM y un poco de imaginación para llenar el aceite por debajo, puedes hacerlo tu mejor que en el concesionario de turno.

    Saludos

    ----------
    Changing oil and filter and adjusting oil level
    This shows you how the oil and filter are changed at the same time.

    If the “old” filter is to remain in the gearbox, please refer to the notes about oil → Chapter.
    Brief description
    First read the oil temperature. If it is above 50°C, let the gearbox cool off. Then, with the engine switched off, the overflow pipe is screwed out and the oil drained in this way. The overflow pipe is then fitted again and the gearbox is “overfilled”, the engine started and excess oil drained until the oil level attains the level of the overflow pipe.
    Special tools and workshop equipment required

    t -VAS 5051-
    t Adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262-
    t Used oil collection and extraction unit -V.A.G 1782- or
    t Drip tray -V.A.G 1306-
    t Torque wrench -V.A.G 1331-
    The oil is available as a Genuine part. Therefore the Genuine part number for it can be found in the → Electronic parts catalogue “ETKA”.
    Prerequisites
    l Engine off.
    l Vehicle level, all supports in lifting platform at same height.
    l If noise insulation tray is present, it must be removed.
    l Selector lever in “P”.
    l -VAS 5051- is connected.
    l At start of work, oil temperature must not be above 50 °C.

    To gearbox manufacture date “20 September 2004”, gearboxes were constructed with two plugs.
    It is important not to interchange these bolts. To change oil, unscrew only -A- near → pendulum support.
    Gearboxes built after 20th September 2004, i.e. which are “later”, are fitted with bolt -A- only.

    – Always renew seal -arrow-.

    – Follow every one of the following instructions in the order given throughout the oil change.
    – Connect VAS tester and identify the vehicle in Guided fault finding.
    – Dual clutch gearbox
    – Check fluid level

    – Engine off - Do not start engine!
    Do not start engine until instructed to do so. But not yet.
    – Place drip tray -V.A.G 1306- under gearbox.
    – Connect VW tester and press Guided functionsCheck oil level.

    – “Slowly” unscrew filter housing.
    – Before removing filter housing from gearbox, tip it slightly in its seat.
    This way, the oil will flow from the filter housing back into the gearbox.

    – After inserting new filter element with -shoulder- downwards, tighten housing to 20 Nm.
    – Raise vehicle.
    – Remove noise insulation tray.
    – Place used oil collection and extraction unit -V.A.G 1782- or drip tray -V.A.G 1306- under gearbox.

    – Remove inspection plug near pendulum support -arrow-.
    A black plastic “overflow tube” (with 8 mm hexagon socket head bolt, tightening torque 3 Nm) is located in this hole. Its length determines the oil level in the gearbox.
    – Remove this oil pipe.
    Approximately 5 litres of oil will run out.
    – Screw overflow tube back in, 3 Nm.

    – Screw adapter -A- from -VAS 6262- hand-tight into inspection hole.

    Shake oil cans before opening them.
    – Add 5.5 l of → DSG® oil.
    To change bottles, close tap or hold adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- above gearbox.
    – Continue to switch -VAS 5051- until → DSG® oil temperature is displayed.

    – Now start engine.
    – Depress brake pedal and select each selector lever position for about 3 seconds. Move selector lever to position “P” position.
    Do not switch off engine!
    When the oil temperature has reached 35 °C to 45 °C:
    – Disconnect quick-release coupling of adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- with engine running.
    – Let excess oil run out.

    – When excess oil has run out (when it begins only to drip), remove adapter for filling oil -VAS 6262- and install plug with new seal.
    Torque setting: 45 Nm
    – Switch off engine.
    Oil which has run out cannot be filled again.
    Dispose of oil according to law → Chapter.
    This concludes the oil and filter change.
    The oil level in the gearbox is correctly set.
    – Install noise insulation tray.
    Muchas gracias por la info!! Saludos.

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